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Game #133: 50 Mission Crush (1984)

[SSI, Atari 8-bits]

I feel I have played too many wargames recently, and let’s be honest these are pretty niche, so I am going to broaden my audience by playing a bona fide role-playing game: 50 Mission Crush. Why didn’t anyone think about role-playing a B-17 pilot? That seems so much more exciting than wizards, rogues and barbarians!

As with all RPGs, I need a long-term goal, my Amulet of Yendor. This is going to be the 50 Mission Crush cap, described this way in the manual:

A “fifty mission crush” is an Army Air Corps, or Air Force, service cap that has the stiffening ring removed, and is worn crushed and battered. This cap is obviously out of uniform, however steeped in tradition. This tradition was started by the 8th Air force flying personnel as a mark that separates the fledgling from the battle hardened survivor of 25+ combat missions. This mangled cap was frowned upon, but tolerated for those who earned the right to wear it.

Airman with a 50 Mission Crush cap.

I am not sure why they call it a 50 Mission Crush when it was worn by the veteran of 25+ combat missions (at which point you could retire), but the game requires you to do 50 missions, so 50 missions it is.

As with every role-playing game, I have a party, called “a crew” in-universe. As usual, I asked my commenters to provide their name, so here is my first party.

Gunners are so OP I took 4 of them

I hope they’ll get to wear the MacGuffin cap as well!

Without further ado, let’s start with the first mission.

Mission 1: Abbeville

The first mission is a strike on Abbeville, a city on the coast just on the other side of the Channel. I did not even know that the Americans bombed it, as the city is mostly known, as far as WWII is concerned, for the Abbeville counter-attack and the French-committed Abbeville massacre. After some research, I found out that it was the second city hit by the US strategic forces on the 19th of August 1942, when 24 B-17S hit some plane factories – learn something new every game I guess.

The historical raid was also a safe way to learn how to operate strategic bombers above enemy territory, and similarly, this is pretty much a tutorial mission for me. Before taking off, I need to set my fuel level (the more fuel I carry, the fewer bombs I bring) and whether I overload my plane with even more bombs, at the risk of finding the airstrip slightly too short when taking off.

I won’t overload again for a while. The risk of failing to take off is not huge, but if I have fifty missions to go through, I need to keep in mind the law of large numbers.

And off we go with my B-17, the Impatient Virgin.

I start over Thurleigh at an altitude of 5 000 feet. Each “turn”, I can do one “action” and then move. The actions are :

  • Gain altitude (by 5000 feet increments),
  • Lose altitude (by 5000 feet increments),
  • Use a fire extinguisher,
  • Drop my bombs (“salvo”),
  • Leave my formation (“abort”),

That’s not a lot of options, particularly because at the moment I am not in formation yet, I don’t have any fire on board and I harbour no ill feelings for the fine people of Thurleigh. I climb to the mission altitude of 20 000 feet and join my formation above the channel. This turns the small blinking dot representing my plane on the mission map into a large blinking dot:

Flying over the Channel with my buddies.

Being in formation protects against enemy air attacks, which does not stop a FW-190 from trying. It is received by Vauban in the top turret manning a twin 50-cal. machine-gun. Vauban misses, but the German plane breaks off after inflicting minor damage to my plane.

E, S and B are the different positions (Top Turret Gun, Starboard Gun and Ball Turret Gun) which can engage the German planes, and the number is their remaining ammo. I can shoot with only one every turn, so I picked one with a twin 50 cal.

We finally arrive above Abbeville. The weather is clear, so the flak is active:

The main effect of Flak is to prevent epileptics from playing the game.

Vauban and Jason’s heaters are out, which at 20 000 feet can be a bit problematic. Before addressing the issue, I drop my bombs (no fancy effects), and earn 1000 points. Did I hit the aircraft factory or downtown Abbeville? I don’t know! All I know is that the -1000 points of the mission are converted to +1000 points the moment the bombs leave my plane while I am approximately above the target.

I turn over to return to England and I need to make the first real choice of the mission: I can either stay in formation, but at 20 000 feet without heating I may lose important bits of Vauban and Jason to frostbite, or I can leave my formation and dive to 5 000 feet, but lose the protection of my squadron. I choose the latter, because not enough commenters registered to afford to lose two crewmen in the first mission!

A Me-110 tries to jump on the defenceless B-17 while I am in the middle of the channel but a short burst from Snorkers manning the tailguns is enough to convince it to come back another day.

I may have all my buddies with me, I am always displayed – and fighting – alone in those sequences.

And on this last bit of action we return to base. Mission accomplished.

Mission 2: Lille

The second mission for the Impatient Virgin is to bomb Lille. This might surprise some of my French readers, but back in 1942 there were things to bomb in Lille: metalworks factories, train workshops and some chemical factories.

The mission is particularly calm, with only a brief attempt by a lone Me-110 near Saint-Omer, quickly fended off by Vauban. When we arrive above Lille, the target is hidden below clouds:

The bottom-left numbers indicate whether there are clouds (1) or not (0) at various altitudes.

The manual indicates “if you have clouds between you and the ground, flak will not fire and you will be unable to hit your target“. Does it prevent me from sending bombs? Of course not! Do I hit chemical factories and metalworks or corons and belfries? I don’t know, but probably not something useful for the German war effort because the -1000 only gets converted to 0 points this time. I promise I will make an effort next time.

The return is eventless and I land with a lot of excess fuel, but only 60 points for the mission.

Mission 6: Romilly-sur-Seine

After an eventless round trip to Rotterdam and two short raids on Cherbourg, I receive my first target inside the continent: Romilly-sur-Seine. I had to look up the city in Wikipedia, and let me tell you that I am OK with dying on a mission to bomb Rotterdam, Cherbourg, Abbeville and even Lille, but I don’t want to be the pilot who dies on a mission against Romilly-sur-Seine. It is not even on the Seine, for Christ’s sake.

I take a generous allotment of fuel and not so many bombs (bombload: 40%). Romilly-Sur-Seine is in zone D, which means a lot of German planes and no fighter escort. The weather is also perfectly clear, so no hiding in the clouds either.

I make a small detour to avoid the German heavy flak concentration, but maybe I should not have: the main threat is the German Luftwaffe. On my way to Romilly, my plane is attacked 5 times by all sorts of fighters. Most attacks are quickly discouraged by my gunners (Vauban in the top turret, Jason in the ball turret and Snorkers in the tail), but one of the German pilots manages to pierce my fuel tank as I pass Paris. I don’t care: I brought so much fuel I continue the mission.

Just as I approach Romilly, I am attacked by 3 planes each immediately after the previous one. The first of them, a 109 coming from starboard, badly wounds Morpheus Kitami as he was manning the port gun.

The port gunner has a limited angle and only a 30mm gun, and I can only shoot with one gun at a time, so I never used him.

I continue the mission and drop my payload on Romily. Flashes of colours ensue:

The game could have done something cool where your plane is damaged if the black holes hit your plane, but no – the animation is just there to waste your time.

The return is another series of air attacks, and above the Channel the last German plane manages to approach and shoots Morpheus Kitami dead!

I had one last burst remaining in the tailgun, and it missed.

No one seemed to care when I landed – Morpheus Kitami (or “the port gunner”) was never mentioned again.

Mission 7: Wilhemshaven

Hey! My first mission in Germany! It is against the submarine pens of Wilhemshaven. No cleric nor resurrect in this universe, so I replaced the late Morpheus Kitami with Ahab as a port gunner:

As we know, we are playing an RPG and you can’t have an RPG without equipment upgrades. And I received an upgrade indeed – the only upgrade available in this game:

This is not totally useless, but this is not a game-changer either: the 30 cal were single-guns, and since I can only use one gun by round of combat I prefer to use the twin 50 cal. I already have. The upgrade is only going to be useful if I am out of ammunition or if an enemy plane comes from the front at the same altitude as I am.

The mission to Wilhemshaven in itself is eventless. The Northern route keeps me in the safe area for more than half of the trip, and heavy clouds protect the plane for the rest of it – they clear just as I arrive above Wilhemshaven. The submarine pens are defended by heavy flak, and just as I drop my bombs, navigator Karbon Kitty is badly wounded. I return in all haste, passing through a gauntlet of German fighters, and return home in one piece.

The mission is a stunning success, and Karbon Kitty survived the ordeal, but that’s the end of his career in the Air Force – at least as a flyer. He is replaced as a navigator by Gubisson.

Mission 10: Rouen

Mission 10’s target is Rouen. After a mission against Rennes and another against La Rochelle, this seems like a milk run.

The mission toward La Rochelle was quite stressful as the plane got attacked without respite due to the clear weather. It had its upside: for the first time an enemy plane was destroyed and not just forced to break off: the first kill (a 109) was Jason manning the ball guns, and the second one (a 110) Snorkers shooting from the tail gun. I still have most of my starting crew.

I passed two milestones with the La Rochelle mission. The first one was a promotion to Captain:

The second is more personal: I am fed up with the game which does not offer me anything new when I fly a few missions, and I start to be particularly cocky in the hope of ending my career early!

Back to the Rouen. The usual interlopers attack me, and Snorkers destroys 2 more of them coming from the back, though not before letting them destroy an engine:

I am forced to use an extinguisher (the game is locked until I do), so that’s another decision I don’t get to make in this game).

I bomb Rouen, get damaged some more by the German flak, and then return to Thurleigh:

That’s when I forget that over Thurleigh, fog at 5000 feet makes landing difficult. And then this happens:

Crash during landing. Ahab is killed, the rest of the crew survives, and the career of the Impatient Virgin ends.

Mission 23: Bremen

I skipped ahead a lot, but then not so much happened. The Impatient Virgin was replaced by the Banshee, but the Banshee was lost only three missions later, after another crash at landing that killed our bombardier Dayyalu. Snorkers had been badly wounded one mission earlier and sent back home. As for me, I was promoted to Major after my 17th mission over Meaulte.

I am now flying the Joan of Arc and my mission will bring us to Bremen, one of the most distant potential targets, Long-distance means lots of fuel, lot of fuel means few bombs, so as is now usual with distant missions I overload my plane. I am confident that I am competent enough now to take off with more bombs than my instructor said was wise but what does he know?

Damn. We lost the copilot Argyraspide and the port gunner we did not care about – I was out of names to replace Ahab. We also lose 1000 points and a plane with a cool name.

Mission 38: Kiel

We skip to mission 38. There were a few milk run missions (mostly to Rouen) in the late 20s, but the missions are getting harder, with most missions in the German fighters-rich “Zone D”. Nonetheless, since the Bremen disaster, I managed to bring the Sweet Pea – my new plane – home every time. I even got promoted to Lt-Colonel and received the Legion of Merit. I only lost 4 more crewmen, but none of them were veterans from mission 1.

The mission starts classically enough: I join my group at 25 000 feet and head East. Unfortunately, shortly before the wall of Flak defence just West of Kiel, the oxygen is hit. I need to leave my group and dive to 10 000 feet (15 000 would have been enough but I did not double-check the manual), where I am alone, and a perfect target for the flak.

I pass a flak barrage with some damage and reach Kiel. In 50 Mission Crush, you are on the receiving end of flak each turn you end above a city. I receive a first salvo upon arriving, which triggers a fire. It takes me one more turn to put off a fire, with more flak, this time with more long-term effects. I finally drop my bombs, receive more damage, and try to limp back home.

That’s a LOT of flak

Of course, with the two oil leaks, two engines eventually stop. I don’t have any escorts and the Germans have a field day attacking: I am slow, and soon out of ammo. Eventually, a Me-109 destroys a third engine, and my plane crashes:

I am lucky! No one I cared about died, and a rescue craft immediately finds us. Looking forward to meeting my new (and fifth) plane – the Sun of Fury.

Mission 45: Bremen

Well, the Sun of Fury did not last long. During a mission to Schweinfurt, I got two engines feathered and the copilot out of action. I aborted the mission and tried to land on Thurleigh, but it did not go well, so my new plane is the Rose of York. I still got promoted to Colonel.

Targets are now always in Zone D, and I count myself lucky when it is not in Germany. German fighters are aggressive, and I often face 5 in a row in Zone D. Luckily, I still have my veterans: Navigator Gubisson, Engineer Vauban, Radioman Porkbelly, Ball Gunner Jason Dyer and Starboard Gunner Operative Lynx. Vauban and Jason Dyer man the two turreted double 50 cal. (one on top of the plane, one below) and they are very good at shooting down planes – I stopped recording the kill tally a long time ago.

I was going to say that Operative Lynx was good too, but the mission starts poorly:

5 missions away from receiving the magical cap!

The mission continues, and I drop my payload above Bremen. Unfortunately, immediately after I start my journey home, my fuel tanks are punctured twice by enemy fighters. I start losing fuel fast – i have barely enough to reach England, and not enough to reach Turleigh…

… well, no problem. I am a level 45 pilot, and I can land my plane anywhere:

If you hit one of those buildings it is game over for the plane.

Mission 50: Meaulte

For the last mission, the target is Meaulte, which given what I had to go through in the last missions is pretty much another milk run. Porkbelly was grievously wounded in mission #46 toward Hamm, Vauban was killed, along with Porkbelly’s replacement, in a particularly harrowing mission above Vegesack (#47) – at least I received a medal for that one. Mission #48 should have been easy (Saint Nazaire), but I crashed at take-off, losing my bombardier and my plane. Mission #49 was another mission for Schweinfurt on a new plane (the Geezul II) except this time I reached the target and dropped my payload… and missed (only 47 points out of 1000 for target destruction).

Only 2 survivors from the original crew: Jason Dyer and myself.

I have very little to say about mission #50: I took off, headed straight for my target and returned. Mission accomplished.

That’s the end of a beautiful career. I receive the magical cap, which gives me +4 in Saving Throw against Direct Orders and +40% Screen Time on any historical series by Steven Spielberg or Ken Burns.

I was 5000 short of the rank of General (55 000 points), which gives you another special perk: a special Certificate of Achievement by SSI. According to Joel Billings, fewer than 20 players sent a photo and received one.

I was quite close, especially as I lost 2000 points due to two failed take-offs. The best method to be a general is probably to fly to the East of England after each successful mission and shoot down planes until either fuel or ammo runs out – these give extra points.

I had expected to die early and wrap up this AAR in maybe 3 days. It did not happen. Looking back, a large reason for my survival may be that I did not bother with calculating how much fuel I would take into missions – so I took an amount that felt safe, and had enough reserve to still fly with holes in my tanks and two engines dead.

I have another hypothesis, but someone would need to check the (BASIC) code of the game to prove it. Death seems to have mostly targeted the same positions (I went through maybe 6 or 7 Port Gunners during the campaign). I wonder whether getting experience alters the odds of being the person who dies when someone gotta die, like when a Me-110 is shooting at point blank or a flak shrapnel goes through the plane. If true, the difficult missions are the first ones – once the crew has its first deaths the new guys become the perfect redshirts to do the dying while the veterans thrive. If so, I was also lucky to have kept for most of the campaign the two most important gunners of the B-17, instead of, say, the radioman and the copilot.

Reviews & Ratings

Introduction of 50 Mission Crush in the SSI catalogue: you play the role of the pilot of a B-17 so look it is a role-playing game.

50 Mission Crush by John Gray, published by SSI, US
First release : May 1984 on Atari and Commodore 64
Average duration of a raid : 5 minutes
Total time played : 4 hours
Complexity: Trivial (0/5)
Final Rating: Totally obsolete
Ranking at the time of review: 119/129

Joel Billings, the founder of SSI, does not quite remember how 50 Mission Crush reached his desk, but the game had everything to be published quickly: SSI wanted to offer both “heavy” wargames and a more lightweight experience, and this game was perfect for the latter category. Furthermore, there was a market for the “B-17” management subgenre, as proven by the success of Avalon Hill’s 1981 boardgame B-17 Queen of the Skies. Designed for solitaire play and highly random, Queen of the Skies may have been John Gray’s inspiration, but if so he removed some of the most interesting choices this game had (particularly crew movements within the plane). It is also possible that the design for 50 Mission Crush came from Grey’s personal experience: he had been a flight engineer on heavy bombers during the Korean War, making him the oldest of all the programmers Billings worked with.

Queen of the Skies shows 3 B-17s on its cover, but just like in 50 Mission Crush, your B-17 will effectively be alone, with the formation/out of formation status only impacting the number of fighters.

50 Mission Crush was released in April 1984 on Commodore 64 and Atari 8-bit at SSI’s low price-point of $39.95. It was released on Apple one month later, and finally on IBM PC in 1986.

A. Presentation: Terrible. The visuals are minimal and the game is not immersive at all. Where are the escort fighters? Where are the other bombers? Why are the Germans attacking one at a time? If I can name my crewmembers, why are those names never used again in the game?

The only good thing in this category is the 5-page essay “Lonely Fortress in the Sky” by Robert S. Billings (Joel’s father) about the life of strategic bomber crews. It is a great read, just like his contributions in earlier manuals (eg in Knights in the Desert).

B. UI, Clarity of rules and outcomes: Very poor.

C. Systems: Terrible. The only actions in the game are moving the aircraft and shooting at targets – the crewmembers are specialized and can’t replace another wounded crewman, and some are totally useless except for some hidden bonus only applicable in edge cases (eg: radioman when ditching).

Effect of damage. American hyper specialisation at work: the copiot does the landing while the radioman does the ditching.

Despite being marketed as a role-playing game, there is no meta-game either. Nothing happens outside the missions. The only progression for your crew members is their experience (=number of missions), and the only upgrade for your B-17 is replacing the 30 cal. by 50 cal. At least, the effect of experience is felt for anyone manning a gun.

In terms of logic and except for the “Save” feature, this could have been a mainframe game.

D. Scenario design & balancing: Terrible. This type of game calls for controlled randomness in the adverse events that can affect the player, but 50 Mission Crush does not do that.

Did the game sacrifice scenario design for realism then? Alas, 50 Mission Crush does not feel realistic at all. Each tile you travel through is disconnected from the previous one: time does not pass (no morning, no evening), there is no weather pattern, your formation is exactly as efficient at the beginning and at the end of the mission, and provided you are at the correct altitude and do not have too much “drag” from combat damage you will always be considered in formation, even if you took an incredibly indirect route or went for a different target altogether.

The map provided with the game. All missions are boring, but the missions in Zones B and C even more so due to how riskless they are.

E. Did I make interesting decisions: None. Officially, the game is about making decisions. In practice, in most missions the only decision taken is the fuel/bomb load arbitrage when taking off – so basically the level of risk. I don’t consider this one “interesting”.

Once you have taken off:

  • There is an obvious route to the target. You don’t have a weather report and cloud cover is random, so you don’t get to choose between a direct route and a cloudy route,
  • The best altitude is always the altitude that puts you in formation, as formation “cancels” some of the enemy fighter attacks,
  • When attacked by fighters, there is no reason not to use the best guns as soon as possible. The game hints that you may want to conserve ammo by waiting for the enemy fighters to approach, but even on the longest missions I only ran out of ammo for some guns on the second half of the return trip – if you receive damage you want to receive it as late as possible in the mission anyway,
  • There is a mini-decision when reaching the target on whether you want to dive below the cloud to bomb your target or just wait for the cloud to disappear by just passing time, but it is hardly exciting stuff.

There could have been an opportunity to make the game interactive when the plane is under attack, but all events are sequential: you resolve the air combats one after the other, then you put out fires if any, then you drop the bombS. You can’t be in a situation where, say, you need to allocate your crew between administrating first aid, dropping bombs and engaging 4 different fighters while there is a fire in the cabin. Instead, the player is left with only one other significant-ish decision: carry on or abort – and even then this only happens in the rare case where your plane has been badly mauled before you start the return trip – maybe once every 8 or 10 missions.

Bomber Crew (2017) proves that it is possible to make a cool video game about a strategic bomber. A great game about one? Still unproven.

F. Final rating: Totally obsolete. This felt like playing with a Skinner box that’s out of food.


I reckon 50 Mission Crush is the first game since Legionnaire where I am the most disconnected from the reviews, and at least for Legionnaire I understood why. The game was popular with reviewers, even though they did not quite agree about its genre.

A good half of the reviews I read bought the RPG schtick. For instance, Rick Teverbaugh writing for Electronic Games in January 1985 introduces it as an “air battle role-playing game”, then states that “The crew becomes part of the family, much like other role-playing games.” and concludes with “forever might not be a bad description of how long 50 Mission Crush will be played by any and all wargame or roleplaying computer gamers who gather around your machine.” – the only mention of “wargame” in the whole review. Similarly, James Trunzo writing for Compute! in April 1985 describes the game as a “pseudo role-playing game” that “requires you to make numerous decisions“, with a list of cases that were non-decisions in my experience (eg “when to drop your payload“).

The Book of Apple Software dodges the issue of the genre by putting it in the “historical reenactment” category, but still rates it highly with an overall “B” (“It’s not the greatest game I’ve ever played, but it does have a certain appeal”). Similarly, Cheryl Peterson for Computer Power Play (October 1985) categorizes it as an outstanding simulation “requiring calculated decisions and a certain amount of guts”.

I am only partially vindicated by Karl Wiegers writing for Antic in May 1985. He categorizes it as a good operation-level war game, but one in which “random events play a larger role in your fate than do skill and practice“. Finally, Evan Brooks calls the game “Realistic but dull“, but still gives 2 stars to the game in his 1987 and 1991 lists of wargames, and 1 star and half in 1993!

The most interesting article on 50 Mission Crush is probably an article called “Fifty Mission Recall” by Leroy Newby, a former B-24 bombardier during World War II, shot down as it happens in his fiftieth mission. Newby compares his experience with Fifty Mission Crush with some of his own missions over Italy, Romania and Yugoslavia. It is a collection of solid anecdotes, including his final flight with the destruction of his plane (by friendly fire coming from another bomber!) and the tragic fate of some of the other crewmembers: “The wing blew up and I managed to open the bomb bay doors and get out. The pilot, co-pilot and radioman were pinned against their seats by the centrifugal force of the flat spin and could not escape.” I recommend reading it if you are interested by the theme.

50 Mission Crush was relatively successful, with more than 11 600 copies sold in the US, which you could see as either the worst-performing RPG released by SSI in 1984 (Questron sold 34 000 and Gemstone 51 000) or the most successful non-RPG released by SSI in 1984 (Imperium Galactum was second with 11 000 copies). SSI saw the glass half-full and 50 Mission Crush had a spiritual sequel in 1987: B-24 Liberator, also by Gray and with Newby serving as a technical advisor. It seems to add some spice to the stale formula, so maybe I will like that one more.


  1. Vauban Vauban

    It was an honour serving you, Scribe! I’d still have preferred to survive, or alternatively to have the satisfaction of bombing one of my own fortifications and proving that they were much better built than these so-called “flying fortresses”.

    Jokes apart, I’m happy you finished this and can move on to better accomplished wargames. As for the categorization, I’ve seen the “RPG” label attached to pretty much anything – including Monkey island in the .nfo file of a pirate copy – so I’m not too surprised of seeing it here. One day I will maintain that Panzer General fits the CRPGAddict’s criteria, so that he’ll have to review it.

    • I am going to be a bit delayed for the War In Russia R&R because I am playing the 1942 campaign and it is harder (I raised the difficulty level a bit, too) – so you’re likely to receive a string of not-so-accomplished wargames for some time (à la William the Conqueror).

      Dying mission #47 – you were not lucky.

      • Vauban Vauban

        As I commented on a review by the CRPGAddict, some games that are tedious or frustrating for you authors result in quite enjoyable reports. This was one of them: as unfulfilling your playtime it must have been, reading about it was very entertaining, and the added suspense of wondering who of us will get to the end also contributed to the experience.

        So it’s mostly for your own sake that I wish you get better quality games – as a reader, I am quite fine reading your rants. I hope the ’42 campaign of “War in Russia” allows you to wash away the bad feelings with this game.

        • Operative Lynx Operative Lynx

          I also started to read this with the suspense of wondering how many missions we would survive, but after seeing how small of a role the crew had, the interest started to wane.
          Considering how reckless our pilot became I was still a little surprised that so many of us survived so long as they did.

          Gray would have really needed an outside play tester to tell him that it’s not enough to just mechanically adapt the rules of a board game to make a good computer game. But an entertaining AAR nevertheless.

    • Morpheus Kitami Morpheus Kitami

      Some slack can be given to the old reviews for the RPG label, it wasn’t that strongly thought up yet, and in the “you play a role” sense, it does fit. It sounds something like a predecessor to Covert Action and Pirates in what it’s trying to do.

  2. Dayyalu Dayyalu

    “The main effect of Flak is to prevent epileptics from playing the game.”

    This one kinda killed me. And the French-flavoured humour is a welcome addition.

    I’m a sucker for this genre (I have a lifelong love for games like Armoured Commander 2, that has become an incredible weird complex little thing with years of updates) and I have bad memories of trying in my youth a couple of B-17 sims, so this one is mightily interesting to read about. Pity I died in a take-off.

  3. KarbonKitty KarbonKitty

    I used to be a flyer like you, until I took a sharpnel in the knee!
    Alas, while I have technically survived, I guess, I can’t count this as a successful career. If only I had been quicker to comment and took the bombardier sight… I’d have been lost later 😀

    Aren’t 109 and 110 called Bf- instead of Me-?

    • They are Me- in the game , and I mechanically followed up – but you would be right yes

    • Paulo Vicente Paulo Vicente

      About the Me vs Bf that depends…

      From what I remember there was a “right” way (I forgot which one), but even the Luftwaffe would mix up Me and Bf in their documents and both ways were used by practically everybody, so while you could use the “right” term from a pedantic point of view, the “authentic” term for the time would have depended on who was using it and when, and they could change it pretty much at any time. So mixing up both terms is actually kind of “authentic” and faithful to the period.

        • KarbonKitty KarbonKitty

          That was a very interesting read! I remember reading in the past that changing the prefix from Bf- to Me- was a form of a reward from the government for the designer for his succesful designs. I’m not sure if I agree with the conclusion the author of the webpage makes; while I have no doubts that both variants were commonly used, it doesn’t really make them both “correct”. It just means we’re not the first people to be confused by all that. 😀
          Perfectly fair to go with whatever game decides to use, of course, as long as they don’t misspell Bimsmark… Bismrack… Bismakr… you know which one I mean! 😉

  4. Gubisson Gubisson

    Ah yes, that’s clearly you on the left of the cover image… that scrunched cap, that unmistakable blasé attitude, the cigar at 20,000 feet in the air while surrounded by oxygen tanks… !
    I was kind of hoping we’d all end up shirtless somewhere tropical, but surviving is good enough!

    • I really wanted the plane to blow up with all the oil fumes, so this 50 missions long soul-crush could end.

      I am sorry Gubisson, but that’s still 7 missions for you before you can sunbath half-naked in North Africa.

  5. WhatHoSnorkers WhatHoSnorkers

    I did my part! I was hoping that Snorkers would get five confirmed kills, but three isn’t bad. He can tell stories while convalescing or something.

    Naming the crew helps the story, but as you say it’s a shame the names aren’t used and the crew don’t DO much. I watched “12 O’Clock High” so something where you build up stress or something would have been good too.

    Lovely read though, thank you. Weird that you get the hat at 25 missions but named 50. I know that Guy Gibson did many, many more missions than that!

  6. Morpheus Kitami Morpheus Kitami

    I’d complain about my poor luck, but that port gunner position is a real meatgrinder. Feels like that position had the absolute highest casualities. I suppose it’s logical though, since it’s the position you’re mostly likely going to fight an enemy plane at. Meanwhile enemies just don’t approach the ball position much it seems, outside of the one shot that nearly ended Jason’s luck before it began.

  7. Porkbelly Porkbelly

    Hmm, I’m possibly feeling a generational gap on this one. Then again, I have half a dozen war games and a ton of sports simulation games that just require rolling on tables to generate narrative results. It’s the sort of thing you love or… meh.

    But while I have a copy of Avalon Hill’s “B-17 Queen of the Skies” that is worn to bits, I also didn’t spend much time with the computer game. The thing is all about generating a narrative at the character level… with the board game your role is in ‘being the computer’ and generating that narrative. Unless you can get invested in the fate of the aircraft and all it’s crew (who only get to make very marginal choices) then it’s just dice rolling and accounting. Bingeing the game is probably a mistake too. Whenever it starts to feel like you’re only pointlessly going through the motions then you need to stop and come back to it when you’re in the right frame of mind.

    Unfortunately for the SSI title, computerising the game takes all the “process” out of it, and that was the part I enjoyed the most in the paper version. I can understand the enjoyment of “programming” the computer game, but for the B-17 (cardboard) audience I would have kept all the individual mechanics and dice rolls out in the open too.

    With the B-17 board game it is also at the single plane/crew level and has less choices to make then you think (movement of crew on the plane?… nah, hardly ever done). But I have run campaigns flying squadrons of 4o aircraft (one after the other) and seeing how the whole thing turned out for the planes and crew of an entire bomber wing. Between missions technology would evolve, crew members would have an events table. Those campaign sessions would take months to complete. Here’s where a game like 50Crush might be another way to resolve flights. but I think the whole process is definitely a form of roleplaying (whatever that really means) and not wargaming. Crew are always “people you know”.

    Games like this are still very popular with solo gamers, with bombers and submarines (sometimes tanks) being the usual vehicle. Target for Today (Legion games) has largely replaced B-17 Queen of Skies for the cardboard crew. A more streamlined version, B-17 by Solitary Division on WargamesVault has also made bestseller lists. I could point to multiple others.

    • It is possible indeed. I could envision myself playing this game with cards & dice on a physical board, and I would have fun – but in front of a computer the experience is different. As you say, showing the dice would have changed this. I feel Armello for instance represented that well – that game would have been totally unnoticeable without that boardgame vibe (and the slick art).

      I certainly “grinded” through the game, but honestly I was already bored with it by the end of battle #2. I expected to have “tense-situations-where-tough-decisions-are-made” a lot more too. Not every raid, but maybe every 3 or 4 raids? It turned out it was once every 10 raids.

      Good point, of course, on the definition of “role-playing”.

  8. Porkbelly Porkbelly

    All this talk of B-17 has got me starting up a new campaign. As I dust off all my old files, I am aware of just how much I typically add to the game in the form of “home-baked variants” to get it to the level of detail I want. You’re right, the computer program is really a limiting factor and I would lose interest in the 50Crush version pretty quickly.

    One thing I found in my notes was an analysis of German angle of attack. Apparently the charts in the board game have the single engine fighter spread out fairly evenly, but it seems that the twin-engine Me-110’s attacks come exclusively from the port side. It’s not all that noticeable until you’ve played a bunch of missions. Personally, I use a variant that spreads things out more, and adds German tactics that evolve with the times.

    Anyway, 50MissionCrush is almost certainly based on the board game which had been around since 1981 (first version was by On Target Game, then it was republished by Avalon Hill in 1983). If it follows the same charts perhaps that explains why you lost so may port gunners over the 50 missions. 🙂

    One last thing on B-17… it’s great as a tournament experience. I believe it’s still a regular at GenCon where 30 players will get together, take a bomber each, and fly missions. I haven’t seen that live myself but I’ve played in them online and it’s still a nice ‘large group’ experience. Great fun! 🙂

  9. Andnjord Andnjord

    As others have said, a poor game but an entertaining review that taught me some nifty details of French geography. I applaud your stamina for drudging through this kind of poorly aged game (although I doesn’t seem to have been any good for its time) in your quest for complete strategic enlightenment.

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